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Originally posted by Ref in PA
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Tom M.
A1 attempts to inbound the ball on the baseline. While in the process of doing so A1 leans forward and loses his balance. A1 while holding the ball with both hands touches the ball to the floor inbounds in order to regain his balance and to avoid falling forward. A1's feet do not cross the endline. Violation or not?
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Tom M.,
No violation.
The player did not carry the ball onto the court. (9-2-5)
The player was out of bounds and the ball location remained out of bounds.(4-4-4)
mick
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How about R9-2-6, mick? Didn't the thrower touch the ball in the court before it touched or was touched by another player?
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JR,
The ball was in the player's hands not in the court, because the ball was never released. The ball was touching the player who is out of bounds, thus the ball remained out of bounds 4-4-4. 
mick
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Yet, by the same rule quote you could argue that the thrower is touching ib at the same time touching oob. I realize that is a stretch. But, if that is the case, then the play would be no different than stepping over the oob line.
I would call a violation.
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Using 4-15-4 (Note3) where a dribbler is not dribbling when he touched the ball to the court once or more than once, I find it to be an easy extension to judge the throw-in player and the ball to be out of bounds because the ball was continually held.
No, for me, the ball is in the hands of a player out of bounds until the ball is released or until the player is in bounds.
Still, I have no violation.
mick