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Old Tue Apr 24, 2001, 03:34pm
David B David B is offline
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Re: Re: Sorry but there is no debate

If you read my posts, I don't care if you do want to flame me or what. I always try to stick to baseball, that is why I am here.

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Others choose to harp on the fact that the PU has this, and the PU has that. I personally do not care. I do not do what others think is right, I do what my partner and I do is right for that day.
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that's kind of scary. The comments that have been made are basic mechanics that are the same in every level of ball. Then you don't have to waste time covering them differently before every game with every new partner. Keep it simple.
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I always try to have a pregame with my partner so that WE can be on the same page. And because I work with guys that have all types of backgrounds, we may do some Pro Mechanics, some college mechanics or any mechanics that an individual was taught by their association or camp they attended.

And if you go back and actually read the original post, you will see that I never made a "interference" or catch/no catch call. We had a situation of malicious contact. I did not realize that malicious contact was only one person's call.

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You still don't seem to understand what people have been trying to tell you. This is about umpiring. It's not one person's call or another. If you have two umpire they are a team. However, on every call, one umpire has jurisdiction. In other words, what we have tried to say is PU should make the call. If he doesn't then the base umpire should step in and make the right call.
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And really we had no interference, because the ball was caught. The thing I wanted to really know, was whether or not you are going to have something for the BR knocking the fielder on his azz!!! The BR ran completely over the first baseman with a block you see on highlights of the NFL. Was the fielder attempting to make the play? Yes, but was the play made by the pitcher, not the first baseman that was knocked over? Yes. I did not realize that "interference" was an appeal situation.

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Don't know what you're talking about here. Interference is not an appeal play situation. But maybe I just didn't understand.

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But if you want to let the PU make a call of unsportsmanlike behavior only, well that is what you have the right to do.

Now because of the nature of the play we have a possible "interference" call, that is another issue. Because that did not happen here. I appreciate the concern about the mechanics, but the question is about the rules. I do not need help about what the proper mechanic or who has what and when. And if I passed on this, I would have been accused of not applying the rules properly. Because the contact was so obvious and severe that someone need to make some type of call. It just happen to be (with no one on base) that I was watching all the players anyway. And because I was looking there, I clearly saw the entire play. My only concern was that we would have had a fight if SOMEONE would have done nothing. And because the PU was watching the ball, he might not have seen what happen completely. But then again, he had no problem with the call. Either way, I have a coach in my face about why I did call or not call what happen.

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Sounds like a good call, sounds like it was very obvious. Any malicious contact results in an ejection and an out. So there should not be a coach questioning anything.
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Please take your egos out of this. This should have been a rules question and answer, not a philosophy on who has what and when. I shared the play because it was rather unusual, and just wanted input. I already did what I felt was the proper call, I just wanted to see if I would be the only one coming to that conclusion.

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In all honesty this is a basic call, and it usually happens at home and between home and first.
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Sorry most of you could not be professional enough to keep it that way. The "BOOKS" say many things, and if you look hard enough, you will find ambigious things than mechanics that contradict themselves from time to time. That is why a pregame is so important

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If you post a question and other people answer the question and then add a little something to the answer, that is very appropriate for a message board. You seem to forget that there are many people who read the boards who never post. The additions about mechanics might clarify the confusion so if the play happens in another game, it might be handled appropriately.

For what it's worth you don't offend me with your comments. However, the way that you handled this post does seem to say a lot about the way that you handle confrontation on the baseball diamond. Everyone has their own style.

Thanks
David

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