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Originally posted by cmathews
You can't apply the NCAA illegal touch to the Fed First touching. It isn't illegal in the federation, it is one of the situations where no foul is committed...yada yada I won't retype the whole sentence. I can see your point however James, but how is K who commits the BIB to know that it isn't a loose ball that he may legally touch or possess...with that in mind, I have no BIB, after it is touched or touches R you can't expect a player to know that it was batted by K to begin with. As a matter of fact if the first K player bats it and it goes out to the 15 where a second K player downs it, assuming no penalties it will be at the 15 so it there is the possibility that R benefits from K getting to the ball at the 15....I would never have a flag for the BIB
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You don't throw a flag for ill touching in NCAA either. It is the same is in NF, just a different name.
If the BIB occured at a time when B could legally contact the ball, it would not be a foul, supported by casebook 9.3.5a. Even when either team can legally push, pull, or ward off an opponent to get to a loose ball, they can still have a foul for PF or ill use of hands 2-3-5 and 2-3-4.