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You can't apply the NCAA illegal touch to the Fed First touching. It isn't illegal in the federation, it is one of the situations where no foul is committed...yada yada I won't retype the whole sentence. I can see your point however James, but how is K who commits the BIB to know that it isn't a loose ball that he may legally touch or possess...with that in mind, I have no BIB, after it is touched or touches R you can't expect a player to know that it was batted by K to begin with. As a matter of fact if the first K player bats it and it goes out to the 15 where a second K player downs it, assuming no penalties it will be at the 15 so it there is the possibility that R benefits from K getting to the ball at the 15....I would never have a flag for the BIB
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