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Originally posted by MJT
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Originally posted by Warrenkicker
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Originally posted by MJT
My take is the BIB is illegal cuz in the definition of blocking it says A or B can legally "push, pull, or ward off an opponent when the ball is loose if he may legally touch or possess the ball."
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And how would you say that K can't legally touch this ball? Are you going to flag K for touching this kick rolling around on the ground? Of course K can legally touch the ball rolling around on the ground during a kick. There is no illegal BIB on this play.
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It is 1st touching in A, and illegal touching in NCAA for K to touch a scrimmgage kick beyond the NZ before it is touched by R. You do not flag it, but you had better have a beanbag down!
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You are correct here MJT. The NF- NCAA definitions are a good example to use for understanding how this works. Even though we don't flag this violation as a foul that carries a penalty, its still technically illegal for K to touch or recover a scrimmage kick thats beyond the NZ before its touched by R. Ks block in the back is illegal.