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Old Wed Dec 01, 2004, 11:32am
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1. 2nd-20 at A’s 20. QB A-10 completes pass to A-83 who runs to A’s 35 where he fumbles. B-71 picks up the fumble at A’40 and returns it to A’s 5 where he fumbles and A-63 falls on the ball at A’s 1 yard line. There was roughing the passer on the play. What do you got?
Options presented to Team A:
Results of play: A's ball 1/10 at A-1 Yard line.
Take Penalty: 15 yards from previous spot and automatic 1st down, thus A's ball 1/10 from the A-35.

Note: Because of the change of possession, we won't use the special enforcement provisions of the roughing the passer rule.



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2. Same scenario but after A-83’s fumble at A’s 35 B-71 falls on the ball at A’s 40? There is again roughing the passer on the play.

Options presented to Team A:
Results of play: B's ball 1/10 at B'sA's 40 Yard line.
Take Penalty: 15 yards from previous spot and automatic 1st down, thus A's ball 1/10 from the A-35.

Note: Again, because of the change of possession, we won't use the special enforcement provisions of the roughing the passer rule.




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Originally posted by MJT
3. 2nd-20 at A’s 20. QB A-10 completes pass to A-83 at A’s 15 where he is immediately tackled. There was rouging the passer on the play.
Options for team A:
Results of play: A's ball 3/25 at the A-15.
Penalty Option: 15 yards from previous spot and automatic 1st down. (A's ball 1/10 at the A-35.)

NOTE: Because the run ended behind the neutral zone, this is penalized from the previous spot.


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4. 3rd-goal at B’s 9. A-10 completes pass to A-83 who is downed at B’s 6. There is roughing the passer on the play. After the play A-52 punches B-71.
Both fouls will be penalized. First we will deal with the live ball foul. A's options are (1) Decline: 4/G from the B-6. (2) Accept, 1/G from the B-3 because this fouls IS subject to the special enforcement provision of the roughing the passer rule. It is enforced from the end of the run after the catch.

Next we deal with the foul by A. It will be A's ball 1/10 at the A-18. Chains are NOT set until all fouls are administered.


One I've added for good measure
A's ball 3/20 at the A-10. A1 completes a pass to A2 at the A-20. During the pass, B1 is flagged for roughing the passer. A2 fumbles the ball at the A-25. A3 picks up the ball and runs to the A-35 where he fumbles the ball. The ball goes out of bounds at the A-40.

Great, now I can give an answer since Mike added a new twist to my question. In this twist it would be A's ball at the 50 cuz the 15 yard RTP would be enforced from the end of the last run, which is the spot of the 2nd fumble, A's 35.
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