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You want us to conclude that it's ok for a concert violinist to vault into the audience and pummel a drunk concert-goer?!?! 
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Not at all Chuck. I think what jdDuke is saying is that you cannot treat anybody anyway and not expect they are always going to turn the other cheek.
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So it's not ok, but it's understandable. I guess I can understand that. I just disagree. I personally -- my own opinion, and obviously you disagree (and that's ok, too) -- think that it's not understandable to kick the crap out of somebody for throwing a beverage on you.
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I have read for the past week all this talk about how Artest is a bad guy and he should have never done what he did. But what about the fans and their behavior?
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Everything I've read or heard on TV or radio has condemned the fans actions. I don't think "what about the fans" is a relevant question. Everybody knows that throwing beer on them was wrong. But I don't think talking about the fans' actions has any bearing on Artest's actions
in this case.
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How about this story? Girl in a bar is told by a male patron that her fashion sense stinks. She's deeply insulted (or perhaps merely drunk). She throws her drink in the guy's face. The guy then beats the girl. How sympathetic is that guy?
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"Nobody is beyond an a@@ whoopin."---Chris Rock.
If the girl did not want her *** beat, she should not have thrown her drink at anybody.
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I agree that nobody is beyond getting the crap kicked out of them --
if they deserve it. If a guy punches you without provocation, or if you are placed in physical danger, then you know what? I am in favor of beating the bejeezus out of the guy. Give him a reason to think twice before doing it again. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
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There is no freaking way a person deserves to get assaulted for throwing a drink. That's not physical danger and it's not enough of a physical assault to justify a drastic reaction. It just isn't. If you honestly believe that a woman deserves to get beat up for throwing a drink in a guy's face, then you are simply wrong. She may deserve some form of physical retaliation, throw a drink back at her, push her away from you, physically restrain her. But she clearly and obviously does not deserve to be beaten.
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Where I am from, it would not be the guy that beats her behind, it would be the women closest to that man at that time (girlfriend, wife, and friend).
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I hope that eventually the people who live where you're from will realize that we no longer live in the 13th century.