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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Look at it this way.

If a batter takes off for 1B on an uncaught 2nd strike and R1 scampers to 3B when F2 throws the ball to F3, that's not ruled interference, right? Why not? Because there is an allowance for an honest mistake by the batter. Do they move the runner back? No, because the runner is permitted by rule to steal the base as long as they do not leave the base prior to the release of the pitch.

No, it is a legal play. Several years back in some associations
it was considered interference. They put the onus on the catcher. Be
aware of the situation.


I'm not supporting the argument that the umpire be a mind reader. And I'm not absolving the catcher's lack of math ability by allowing such an act to occur more than once. I'm looking for an immediate, honest response from the catcher. It's called preventive umpiring. It is not listed anywhere in the rules, but you hear the term a multitude of times during every umpire clinic or school.

I agree there are situations where preventive umpiring is acceptable. I don't like using it in this situation.


If an umpire is getting a change from the coach and notices that the player he is attempting to put in the game was not eligible. As the umpire, do you expect me to keep quiet and wait for the opposing team to protest? I hope not, because I'm going to stop the coach from doing it.

Different situation. And I agree. This should not happend. However,
Catcher throwing the ball has already happened, and even in the Clinic Guide
this act is an illegal pitch.

How many umpires here refuse to take a change or reentry prior to that event actually happening? I hope you all do because if you don't, you can get into trouble.

As you, I hope that everyone umpiring refuses to take a change or reentry
until it actually occurs.


If you see a base coach creeping closer to the line after each pitch, do you wait for something to happen or do you instruct the coach to get back to the box?

Honestly, I always say something. "Hey coach, cannot tell who is the runner here.
Please remain in your box."

If you see a new face step up to the plate and hear someone say, "new batter" knowing that you never received a change, do you just let it go or do you ask the batter if he is reporting?

Let it be. I am not too good on remembering faces. Up to the defense to catch it
and the offensive to report it.

When you see a pitcher warming up, throwing illegally, do you say something, or do you just grin and think, "Boy, I'm going to eat this pitcher for lunch"?

I would not say anything. They normally warm up differently than what
they would do when the game starts.


Well, you can certainly rule a ball on the batter in the given scenario, and you can believe me that I am not a fan of the "spirit of the game" or "intent of the rule" arguments unless I was in the room at the convention when it was discussed. However, I am a big fan of preventive umpiring and this is not a matter of the catcher delaying the game (purpose of the rule) or showing off, but believing it was the third strike on said batter. This, in my mind, makes the throw valid.

Sorry, cannot agree. Have called this several times. It is their
responsibilty to be aware.


JMHO,