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Old Thu Nov 25, 2004, 07:53pm
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Originally posted by MJT
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Anytime the ball crosses the NZ and touches the ground, a player, or official, if K recovers the ball is dead immediately.
NCAA: Looks like you have the concept down. The way to really look at this is by definition, that a scrimmage kicked ball has crossed the NZ if it touches the ground, a player, or official while beyond the NZ. If any of those three conditions did not occur, then the kicked ball did not cross the NZ. That covers the case where the ball is blown back behind the NZ, blocked or was a very short kick that did not even make it to the NZ.

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The ball would belong to K for a new series (AR 6-3-1a), unless it is in the EZ, then it is a safety (AR 6-3-1IV).
New series for team-A only if the ball was touched by team-B while the ball was beyond the NZ. Ball dead at the point team-A recovered. 2 points for team-B if that recovery was in the EZ. Team-A cannot advance a kick that has been determined by definition to have crossed the NZ no matter where the recovery by team-A is completed.

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If the ball crosses beyond the NZ, B touches it and it still comes back behind the NZ, A's ball when recovered, no different than if not touched by B (Not covered by an AR).
Partially correct. Yes, a Team-A recovery kills the play and they get a new series since team-B had touched the ball beyond the NZ.
But if the ball had simply touched the ground beyond the NZ, and is recovered by team-A behind. Play over. Team-B takes over. By definition, the kicked ball crossed the NZ, but something we called continuity of downs has not been broken.(see rule 5)

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Now if the ball does not touch the ground, a player, or an official, and the ball crosses the NZ and is blown back, it can be advanced by K or R. To retain possession K would have to make it to the LTG, otherwise 1st down for R(AR6-3-1B)
Correct. As noted by definition this ball did not cross the NZ.
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