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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by bgtg19
Wow, who knew that ... timeouts (!) ... were the problem with society? Let me just suggest that it is not the *form* of discipline that is the/a cause of the problem, but rather the absence of discipline altogether. There are responsible ways to handle discipline using (a) exclusively timeouts and other forms of non-physical discipline (as I am using on my children); and (b) spankings and other forms of both physical and non-physical discipline (as my parents used on me). I am a healthy and balanced person (although the occasional coach and fan doesn't necessarily see it that way!) and my children appear to be healthy and balanced. Just because my children do not get spanked does *not* mean that they get to do whatever they want....
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Well you have not convinced me. We live in a society that has abandoned many of the things that used to work, for a new age way of thinking. I cannot and will not say it is just about spanking, but something is wrong when these kids do not fear any authority. Parents allow their children to behave in all kinds of way that was never acceptable when I was growing up (and I am 32 btw). I could not even imagine myself calling an elder by their first name. But all I see is adults allow that kind of interaction with kids because they want to be liked. So if they are disciplined without a belt, I am not seeing the result of that behavior in many kids today. Not all, but many.
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I don't suppose that this is, or should be, the child discipline forum. And although I realize that it won't convince you to say this, I again want to emphasize that what parents allow or disallow is not necessarily related to the *form* of discipline that they use to enforce the limits on children's behavior. I don't choose not to spank my children because I want to be liked by them, I choose not to spank them because I want them to grow up in a world where there are solutions to problems that don't involve physical dominance. And I respect parents who thoughtfully choose a different path to raise their own children.