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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Originally posted by shont
Was watching college BB game on TV last night. After a made basket the scored upon team's player picked up the ball, steped OOB with both feet, lost his balance, fell forward and put the ball (while holding it in both hands) on the floor in bounds to catch himself, stood up still with feet OOB then made the throw in. No violation was called. Would it be a violation in NF rules for carrying the ball onto the court??
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I'm sure that there are many who will disagree with my opinion, but I do NOT believe that this action constitutes is a throw-in violation.
First, the casebook play cited earlier by Redhouse should be 9.2.5, which deals with a thrower STEPPING through the boundary plane and touching the court inbounds. That is a violation. However, in this play the thrower never touched the court inbounds, only the ball did, and he did not release it on a throw-in pass.
Second, let's look at the actual rule.
9-2 Throw-in Provisions
A player shall not violate the following provisions governing the throw-in.
The thrower shall not:
ART. 1...Leave the designated throw-in spot until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.
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ART. 5...Carry the ball onto the court.
What we have to decide is whether either of these two provisions has been broken.
1. Since this throw-in is after a goal it is not a designated spot throw-in. Therefore, article 1 does not apply.
2. Article 5 is the only possible rule that could allow the official to call a violation in this case. It is my opinion that only the player physically touching the inbounds portion of the court is carrying the ball onto the court. For me simply bending over and touching the ball to the inbounds portion of the court is not carrying it onto the court. It is not crystal clear in the books and is a gray area in my humble opinion.
There are analogous situations in the rules. (Examples include: holding the ball and touching it to the floor is NOT a dribble (4-15-4 NOTE#3), a player is allowed to bounce the ball over the FT line during a FT attempt before trying for goal, and 9-1-9 specifying a FOOT may not break the plane, see the next paragraph.)
Again others will have to make their own decisions, but in a related situation, I believe that reaching over and touching the court inside the free throw lane with a hand does not constitute leaving a marked lane space during a free throw 9-1-6, nor is it against 9-1-9 since that rule specifically says the foot cannot break the plane.
I think that those who already answered and did so with certainty and conviction may have done so too quickly and should consider this argument.
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You are kidding ,aren't you?
Article 5 is the only rule that an official could use to call a violation in this case? Um, how about 9-2-6-
"The thrower shall not touch the ball in the court before it touches or is touched by another player". Isn't the ball "in the court" when it touches the floor in-bounds? Seems like R4-4-1 says it is-
A ball which is in contact...with the court is in the backcourt if...the ball...is touching thre backcourt". Isn't the thrower "touching" the ball at that instant? Isn't the thrower the first to touch the ball after it touched in-bounds? Maybe you can find 2000 words to tell us why that rule can't possibly apply either.
Yer a hoot, Nevada! LOL.
