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Originally posted by blindzebra
We are talking liquid in plastic cups, popcorn in paper containers. This is not a gun, a knife, a pipe, a bat,a fist, or batteries, it was LIQUID.
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No sh!t McFly!! You went to school to learn that logic you keep using?
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The fans that are caught on tape should go to jail, and so should the players.
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Not sure I agree. The action of certain players can be taken into account based on their role in the incident.
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Like I said in my first post, if a fan is on the court fine it's an actual threat of attack and fine, knock them out, that is self defense.
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Well that is what happen in other incidents.
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Going into the stands trampling over INNOCENT people, escalating a situation that endangered even more people is not self defense, it is a crime.
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Oh PUULEEESSS!!! Artest did not trample over anyone to get to that guy that threw the beer. He went right at the guy and knew who he wanted to retaliate against. It might be a crime to hit the guy. But that is for a judge and a prosecutor to determine. No one here is going to make that decision ultimately. And you do not know the laws in the state of Michigan and how those laws will be enforced. Charges could be dropped and they might decide to go after the fans that participated. The NBA cannot suspend fans, but the law can take actions against people that violated the law. I am sure there will be more than fans that will get prosecuted here.
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I'd hate to think that you are so emotional that you'd condone stupid and dangerous behavior as justified.
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I did not condone or justify anyone's behavior. I am saying that if you do not want to start a fire, you do not play with matches. You are trying to make this a moral issue based on what is essentially a lie. Then you try to compare a situation that did not take place to justify you point of view. Murder? Trampling? Involuntary Homicide? It is very silly to me when you try to misrepresent the actions of all parties. No one was killed or shot anyone with a gun. There were no fans trampled by Artest. There were fans that interjected themselves on an on-court event. Now that did happen. There were fans that were not involved in the fight between Artest and that beer throwing fan and started hitting players that did not hit them. I did see O'Neal protecting himself when they went after Artest. Now the camera did not show everything and I was not there in person to know for sure. I do know that if someone was hitting me from behind in the back of the head, I am sure I would not just sit there and take it.
Peace
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This is my last reply because you obviously DON'T get it.
There was no reason to go in the stands NONE, ZIP, NADA. Nothing that was done justifies what happened. No way Artest saw who threw the beer, the tape shows him looking up and toward the court, AND the guy he attacked was still HOLDING a cup.
You like to say I'm going to extremes, but you have yet to disprove that there were innocent fans between the court and where the fighting took place.And large out of control men were going over, through, and past them to attack who they THOUGHT threw beer at them.
That is no different then idiots shooting at each other past innocent people. The fact that nobody got seriously hurt, does not lessen the risk that two groups of idiots put them under, because they cannot control themselves.
Neither side was justified in their actions, and all of them should be punished for what happened. That is NOT
PR it's called JUSTICE.