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Originally posted by rainmaker
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Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan
Bama is right, meerly stepping OOB is nothing but running a few steps OOB is. Look at the situation and see what's happening. Say A1 has the ball and is trapped. Nobody can get open, A2 runs out of bounds and get open in the corner. A1 gives a ball fake to A2 which helps to free up A3 to receive a pass. True, A2 never got the ball but the advantage is clearly there and that's why I don't think you wait to long to see if an advantage is gained.
IMO, advantage gained= T. No advantage but runs a while OOB= violation.
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You're right, but I'd judge more by the screen than by the actual player who goes oob. If B1 is very close to the boundary line, and A1 HAS to step out to get around, even if it's only just on the line, that's a T. If there's no screen, or the screen is under the basket, and A1 just sort of steps on the line without noticing, obviously that's not a T. Another example of "ref the defense".
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I hope you'll reconsider the first part of what you've said. When layer A1 makes a reflexive dodge to get around the screen (no matter how close to the line it is), it shouldn't be a T. The purpose of this rule is to penalize deliberate use of the OOB space for an advantage...running out one door and coming back in the other one, going around the lead official. It is not meant to penalize normal reactions to plays on the floor that might result in being OOB. I assert that the T for being OOB is not intended to be used for a player who has a foot on the line, deliberately or not.
I should add that I don't mean to address the case where the player sees the screen well ahead of time and as the time to choose their path.
[Edited by Camron Rust on Nov 18th, 2004 at 03:19 PM]