[Camron Rust]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BktBallRef
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Originally posted by Camron Rust

No. Every reference to this that i've seen in the formal rules or case does imply that it is a try...just that it can't be successful and perhaps ends simultaneous with the beginning.

Again, a try is defined as an attempt to put a live ball in the basket. It doesn't matter if the player has a chance to make it. It's still a try. However, that try ends before it is released.

This happens either of two ways. The ball is dead when the clock expires since it is declared that the player can't possible catch/release in that time. Once the player catches the ball, the try both begins and ends on the catch since you know he can't successfuly complete the try.

Consider a slower player catching the throw-in with 0.5 seconds left. If they start the motions of a try but don't release the shot before the expiration of the clock, it is still a try. It just ends with the horn.

The 0.3 second rule is not meant to change the definition of a try...just to give the official guidance on whether the clock should expire or not to avoid issues with the preciseness of the clockkeeper.

Camron, if it was a try, he would shoot two shots, wouldn't he? But we've established that he DOES NOT shoot 2 FTs. That's because there is no try. It doesn't begin and end with the catch, it simply never is.

Your description is a change in the definition, not mine. The try begins and ends with the catch? Where can I find that definition?

I'm done.

[Edited by Camron Rust on Nov 12th, 2004 at 04:12 AM]