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Originally posted by refburn04
I have to disagree on this one. Rule 10-4-5(d)...The basic spot is the succeeding spot: When the final result is a touchback.
OK, let's look at:
10-6 ENFORCEMENT SPOTS, ALL-BUT-ONE PRINCIPLE "Unless otherwise listed in Section 4 and 5, a penalty for a foul occurring during a play is enforced from the basic spot with the exception of a foul by the offense which occurs behind the basic spot during a loose ball play or a running play.This particular foul is enforced from the spot of the foul."
So it seems that "all but one" does not apply to
Rule 10-4-5(d). No safety, enforce from the succeeding spot.
As a basic rule of fairness we penalize the offense with all but one to negate the advantage gained by that foul.
If the offense is holding or BIB or committing other live ball fouls in their end zone they are preventing the defense of a chance to score a safety had they not been fouled.
So if B gains possession in the end zone and is downed there, there is no legal way for A to get a safety with or without being fouled.
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I dont agree with this line of thinking being relative to enforcing the penalty.
The premise is that the defense is not capable of scoring on the play because of the penalty itself. The team in possesion could gain an advantage to run the ball all the way to the other endzone and score is just as feasible.
Secondly, rule 10-4-5 refers to basic spots, not the enforcement spot,
This play, in MHO, is no different than a BIB during a pass play that occurs in the endzone. How the ball got in the endzone is not relative, the team in possesion could have just as easily have taken a knee and solved all our problems.
[Edited by Texoma_LJ on Nov 2nd, 2004 at 07:59 PM]