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OK what does a jacket look like? Up here in the northern region of the country-Alaska (or for that matter the furthest west and east also) we do not wear jackets at the Varsity level, they look like s!#$. There is enough cold weather gear that we buy the other garmets a little bigger and wear as much as possible underneath. Last week I had to even take off a layer, it did get into the upper 40's.
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