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Old Wed Sep 29, 2004, 09:09am
bob jenkins bob jenkins is offline
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Re: Re: Once again, they just don't get it!

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Originally posted by jumpmaster
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
LL,
...the frozen rope that is rocketed down the third baseline with R1 and R2, one out in a tie game. The umpire sees that the ball never waits - says, "Show me the ball." and the fielder raises the glove. Since the umpire knows that the ball never touched the ground, he signals "Out." The fielder then gets up and while trotting into the pitcher, takes his glove off in order to free the ball which is stuck in the now broken webbing...

...R1 and R2 and 2 outs - the batter crushes a one hopper down the third baseline. He snares it and steps on third for the final out. His teammates are trotting off the field and congratulating him. The offense is now off the field and just about to their dugout, when you, the PU notice the kid take off his mitt and forcefully push the lodged ball out. He tosses it to the other pitcher coming to the mound...
Windy has a point. I think we can all grasp the concept, even if we don't agree, of F1 tossing his glove to F3 for an attempted putout. Based upon the Fed ruling, the plays that Windy outlines should be "dead ball, award bases" scenario. However, practicallity says this won't happen.

To stir the pot even more - Windy, do you overrule your partner who has signaled out, the players have cleared the infield and you now know the correct interpretation?
That's not how I read the rulings. I read them as "a ball becomes lodged when an umpire notices that the ball is lodged. Outs made prior to the ball becoming lodged stand."

So, in both plays above, I have outs. Had the out not been the third out of the inning, then award bases to the remaining runners.

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