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Old Mon Sep 27, 2004, 08:21pm
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Thumbs down Not sure why you got that out of my posts?

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Originally posted by Texoma_LJ
Rut, I mean no disrespect and I have learned alot from referees with more experience. But alot of your comments seem like that you have no faith in officials without alot of on the field experience.
Comments like what? This is not about experience or lack of experience. I am just living in the real world. If you are a younger official, you better make sure you are correct when you try to "question" their call. It better not just be a judgment situation that you are taking an issue with. Now I have 9 years of varsity experience and the experience and the knowledge of the officials I am working with are important. What do you think a 20 year veteran with a couple of State Titles under their belt think of a two year official? What do you think a coach thinks of the two year official as compared to the State Final Official or crew?

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Originally posted by Texoma_LJ
Because an official is new does not mean they dont "see" things correctly. I would tend to wager that I spend more time studying than alot of other officials that have 10 times more experience than I do.
This has nothing to do with a new official or not a new official. But if you are a rookie, you better be sure you are right. The veteran might get the benefit of the doubt and the rookie have eliminated himself from future assignments. Especially if the tape does not back you up.

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Originally posted by Texoma_LJ
I am willing to spend whatever energy and time is necessary to get better, but not if it means that I am going to work with people that dont care what I bring to the table.
That is life. Officiating is not much different than any other aspect of sports. An Emmitt Smith has much more respect amongst his peers as compared to a Quentin Griffin. One has been to Super Bowls and one MVP awards and the other has just had one big game in his career. Dude that is just the way it is until you prove yourself as an official.

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Originally posted by Texoma_LJ
To say that there is 'no need for discussion' and 'getting things right are not relevant' is really demoralizing to hear as a young official. Makes me think that even if I KNOW !!! and I mean KNOW that I am right, that I shouldnt bother because I wont have any weight in the discussion with the WH. I thought the idea was to get it right, if it isnt that... then what is it ???
I have a saying on my crew, “if you call it they are guilty." I do not question my partners or my partner's calls. I do not care if you are a 20 year veteran or a 1 year rookie. I do not question my partner's calls not matter what I think I saw. I will provide information that will help them make a call, but I am not changing it when I have a different angle and probably a different look. I work 3 sports and in all of them I work with my partners as a team. We are not a bunch of individuals out there; we work together as a unit. If you are coming to me as the WH about a fellow officials call, you did not do your job. You should have went to the calling official and asked them what you saw. By the time it comes to me it is too late. For one as a WH I probably did not see the play that warranted the flag. I am not going to just take your opinion over the person that threw the flag. If that bothers you, well that is just too bad. As the WH I am not there to make friends, I am there to run the game. The game runs better when our partner's calls are not questioned. What is to say that when he does that to you, he is correct? Are we going to spend the entire night changing calls because another official thinks the call is wrong?

Let me say this too. I am a veteran like many others. I do not consider myself as at the top, but I have been held responsible for the actions of younger officials at times by assignors or evaluators because I was the "senior" official on the game. I earned that right through hard work and proving myself when I was given a big opportunity. That is the case in all the sports I work. But I have been the young guy (and I still am sometimes) in games where I am the one wet behind the ears. I worked a big game last year in the basketball season where I was the only non-playoff, non-state final official on a big game. It was obvious what my role was and it was not to tell my partners what I think I can or cannot do. I work on a football crew every Saturday where I am the only official that has not worked a single state final as well. I had to earn their respect for a couple of years working with them. I probably have done that, but still have to be careful how I work with that crew. If it is going to bother you to have a veteran tell you to watch your place, then you are going to have a lot of problems in this officiating thing. That is going to come with the territory. And yes, if you see something and all you have is a different judgment, you might find yourself getting a bad reputation for your attitude.

This is meant to be a slam at all. I understand your point of view, but the experience level of an official means a lot. You have to prove yourself on many levels before you start telling fellow officials what you have. That even applies sometimes with fellow veteran officials so you will have problems if you cannot deal with that part of it.

Peace

[Edited by JRutledge on Sep 27th, 2004 at 09:26 PM]
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