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Originally posted by JRutledge
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Originally posted by Warren Willson
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Originally posted by JRutledge
... I repeat that you all but accused Mr Simms of saying he wouldn't ask the BU in C when appealed to. The relevant sentence from your post is this:
"I think you are going to cause yourself some problem if you are doing a NF game if a coach asks for an appeal and you do not grant one." (my underline)
I repeat, Mr Simms did NOT say he wouldn't ask BU when appealed to, regardless of BU's position. He simply said he wouldn't ask BU in C without first being requested to. I hope I've made that clear. I really don't care what your points where. I have deliberately avoided entering the debate on that subject. I was simply correcting the wrong impression you gave, perhaps inadvertantly, over what Mr Simms had said in his post. Perhaps it was not I who needed to "read again the entire post".
Cheers,
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I think you need to take what I said into context. I used the appeal statement as an example of what you should not do. I never said that he suggested that, but you do not make determinations about when to make an appeal just because of where the BU is located. And the point is that a coach is not going to buy that argument if they ask you for an appeal. And whether you think he said or did not say is not my point. You should not take the attitude at any point in my opinion on whether you ask for help on a check swing and base that on the BU position.
Stop thinking that everyone that injects a thought, they they are accusing someone of saying something. It just shows how flawed the argument that Mr. Simms made, because if he is making determinations based on where the BU is, then one can only assume that you would not want to ask if the BU was in a certain position. It is called debate and intellegent discussion. If he was not specific about the issue, me and anyone else is going to assume the other exclusions as well.
Peace.
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I see by page 3 that this thread has really gone south. I can't leave it though without saying that both Warren and J. Rutledge have insulted me by calling me
Mr. Simms. Wht so formal? We don't even call Carl "Mr. Childress"!
In all seriousness I would point out that the original post in this thread posed the question
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"Runners on 1st & 2nd, I am PU, Bu is in C Slot.
B1 checks his swing & I ask my partner for Help "did he go"?
I caught him off guard & he did not react right away then gave the safe sign. Was I wrong for asking for his help with a right hand batter up?...
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Warren focused on the fact that I would not routinely check
ON MY OWN with a BU not considered to be in the "right" location e.g. a RHB and BU in "C" position. This does not mean that
On Appeal I wouldn't check whether it is OBR or FED. Tee and others clearly disagree that the position of BU should influence whether or how PU asks for help. I also tried to address the fact that BU could be caught
off gaurd by stressing this is an important topic for a pre-game conversation. Jim Simms/NYC