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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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An interrupted dribble is NEITHER intentional, purposeful, or accidental.
It's simply a situation where the ball momentarily gets away from the dribbler. It doesn't matter whether it's intentional, purposeful, or accidental.
It doesn't matter how or why it happened. It's simply an ID.
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The play in question is NOT an interrupted dribble, and I don't know how to make that any clearer.
If you caused the ball to go past the defender it did NOT get away from you.
[/B][/QUOTE]BZ, it doesn't really matter if you caused the ball to go past the defender or not. If you WERE dribbling but you are NOW physically unable to immediately continue to dribble, even if you wanted to, then the ball HAS gotten away from you. That's simply a physical fact. You've lost player control because you're no longer able to dribble, and it's regarded as an interrupted dribble. Those are the criteria that the FED cited when they first introduced the concept of interrupted dribbles into the rule book about 20 years ago- i.e. the dribble hasn't ended, but the player dribbling lost player control for some/any reason and was physically unable to continue dribbling, even if he wanted to, but he still had the legal right to continue dribbling when he re-gained player control.
It's a moot point anyway in this particular argument, isn't it, according to eventnyc's description of what happened? The main point was what, if anything, should be called on the dribbler for going OOB around the defender.
I'd pull out the pertinent language on interrupted dribbles from one of my 20-year old rulebooks, but unfortunately they're kept in one of my briefcases, and I keep those stored in a bomb-proof vault in a hidden cave somewhere deep in the Sierra Madre mountains. I could tell you exactly where, but then I'd have to kill you. [/B][/QUOTE]
The thing is the last time this situation came up, I got out on the court with my partner and we tried it. I'm not a great dribbler, but I was able to push the ball past the defender and run around him during one bounce.
It goes back to what i said earlier, if A1 pushes the ball ahead and takes several steps to dribble again is that an interrupted dribble. BBREF of course said steps don't matter, and refused to follow logic. Since player control is lost by deflection off the dribbler or the ball getting away,i.e. not going where the dribbler WANTED it to go you have an interrupted dribble.
Every dribble gets away from the dribbler after it leaves their hand, it becomes an interrupted dribble when it STAYS away. Their is no difference between pushing the ball ahead beyond a normal dribble and pushing it past a defender.