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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Me....I'm calling OOB. By the argument of those claiming it should be a T, it should even be so if A1 should only barely step on the line. I The player may or may not realize they're even out. I feel that the T requires some sort of intent or extreme advantage that would not be obtained from a similar path that was inbounds. If that player goes that far OOB, I'm betting the have diverted far enough that it will give the opponent time to actually get the ball.
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Camron, please note that I never said that it was a T if A1 barely stepped on the line. Please note that I actually stated that that particular scenario was a violation only if A1 was still able to dribble while barely stepping on the line, but by rule it was a no-call if A1 had barely stepped on the line during an interrupted dribble. Please note that I also said that it was up to the official's judgement as to which of those occurred. And lastly, please note that the I stated that the new FED POE says that it's a T if any player left the court for an unauthorized reason, and gave the example of an offensive player getting around a defensive player by running OOB. That's a diffent case completely than "barely" stepping on a line, and is governed by a different rule. Just wanted to make sure that you understand what I have been saying.
Now, are you telling me that it's a violation and not a T if an offensive player runs OOB to get around a defensive player?
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By the definitions, player location is either inbounds or out-of-bounds. There is no distintion between a little OOB and a lot OOB.
If the claim is that it must be a T to dodge a defender by stepping several feet OOB, then, by rule, it must also be a T for the player to dodge a defender and step only millimeters OOB. In both cases the ball/player's status made exactly the same transitions....player control (dribbling), perhaps an interrupted dribble, player steps/runs OOB, player returns and resumes the dribble.
In this case, I'm calling the OOB violation the moment A1 steps OOB. I'm not giving him time get far OOB since the violation occurs the instant the first foot contacts OOB.
Yes, I'm in the camp that this is NOT an interrupted dribble. There is no limit on the distance, direction, or number of steps between each contact in during a dribble. If the player has fully controlled the movement of the ball, nothing has been interrupted.