Quote:
Originally posted by dumbref
K's ball on their own 5, 4th and 8. K's kick goes beyond the expanded neutal zone where it is muffed by R. The muff bounces into and through K's end zone. During the kick, R holds at K's 15. If K accepts the penalty, PSK or Previous spot?
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A question lingers about your play. That question being; When did the ball first touch the ground?
1) Did the ball first touch the ground
prior to the muff by R? Or,
2) Did the ball first touch the ground
after the muff by R?
Not knowing the answer, I will provide both results. However either way,
PSK is not applicable because;
1)
Assuming the ball first touched the ground prior to the muff by R, the result of the play is a
touchback. (See NFHS 8-5-3b)
Since R is not next to put the ball in play following a touchback,
PSK is not applicable.
Therefore, the options for K are: a), accept the penalty (Loose ball enforcement would make it 1st and 10 for K on the K-15); or b),
decline the penalty and accept the result of the play (a touchback) K's ball 1st and 10 on the K-20.
2)
Assuming the ball first touched the ground after the muff by R the result of the play is a
safety, See NFHS 8-5-2b
Since R is not next to put the ball in play following a touchback,
PSK is not applicable.
Therefore, the options for K are: a),
accept the penalty (Loose ball enforcement would make it 1st and 10 for K on the K-15) or b), decline the penalty and accept the result of the play (a safety) - Award R 2-points and K shall put the ball in play via a free kick from the K-20.K's ball 1st and 10 on the K-20.
In both cases
the obvious choice is in bold.
Quote:
Originally posted by dumbref
Play 2:
Same situation except R recovers the kick at K's 2 yard line.
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PSK is applicable!
Since the end of the kick is the K-2 yard line, and the spot of the foul is behind the end of the kick the holding penalty (10 yards) would be enforced from the K-15 yard line. Since R is next to put the ball in play and all the other requirments of PSK have been met, PSK is applicable. The result of the play is 1st and 10 for R (now A) at the K (now B) 25.
[Note: I corrected my earlier post after reading Pigg Skins post below as I then realized I had mine all screwed up - this is a great play, I will present it to the 3rd officials in the class I instruct.
Good job Pigg Skin]
[Edited by KWH on Sep 5th, 2004 at 06:19 PM]