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Originally posted by ljudge
Ed, please read the comment on page 38 (SITUATION 5.1.2E) of the case book and then tell me if you still think A keeps the ball after enforcement of the live-ball nonplayer IS foul.
It says in part "A must get a first down by virtue of the yardage gained, including any yardage or an automatic first down from penalties for PLAYER fouls during the down, or it is a new series for B..."
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Understand the confusion. IS in the play you cited is a live ball-nonplayer foul and 5.1.2E Comment states only player fouls.
The foul is committed during a live ball period by a nonplayer. The foul is illegal substitution.
You are thinking it should be penalized as a dead ball foul since it is a nonplayer foul. However, 3-7-1 Penalty clearly makes it a live ball foul. All live ball penalties would be enforced before establishing a new line to gain.
Substitution infractions can only be penalized as dead ball fouls if they occur before the snap. After the snap they will be live ball fouls.