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Old Fri Aug 20, 2004, 01:12pm
WindyCityBlue WindyCityBlue is offline
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Originally posted by PS2Man
I have been watching this discussion closely.

You never over rule a partner. I will say it again. You never over rule a partner. You might work with a fellow official to come to a conclusion but you never over rule a partner.

Are there calls that can get change? Of course they can. But that is not over ruling a partner.

You still can never over rule a fellow official regardless of how bad you think it is. You have to work together and come to a conclusion. You might even think there was a bad call that was made but that does not give you the right to change a call without their consent or without a conversation.

WCB, you are a travesty to fellow officials. Your name calling is not right and is very unnecessary. Rut has not done anything to you hear to warrant your behavior and your words. You have claimed not to even work football and you are not educated in the ways of knowing what football officials do.

Now are you going to call me names and tell me what I do not know?
No need to call you names. I can dress you down just fine without them. Why not respond to Rut's quote that I copied and pasted here? Uh, oh...did you really read all of the threads (General, BB, Basketball and Football) relating to this post or just what you wanted? Uneducated people swear when they can't think of a reply to a debate. But, again, I'm the travesty.

I’m glad to see how adamant you are regarding this discussion. “Never overrule your partner’s call.” You should probably give MLB a phone call, since four (4) foul ball homerun calls were overruled this year. They probably did not get the memo that you and Rut did.

I’ve been at this quite a while, as well - on the field and as an instructor at clinics across the country. When you have worked at my level (3 yrs. rostered Minor League, another 8 as a local with the Northern and Frontier Leagues, NCAA D-1/2/3, High School and an American Legion National Championship Series) then you can tell me what is proper mechanically and ethically.

All officials share a code of responsibility and conduct. If you are officiating for more than the money, you probably recognize the importance of getting the call right. We all try to and sometimes fall short. We’ve all worked with guys who have kicked calls that can be corrected, some of us now how to handle it and get the call corrected. Others appear to want to hide behind tradition and pride. The leagues are making us more accountable. It will be up to you to allow a bad call to stand. What will you do when your partner says "It was a touchdown." and the rest of the crew KNOW it ws not, but he won't budge? Your owns words indicate that you’ve obviously made your choice.

I originally posed this question on the baseball board two months ago. Rut jumped in and showed the world how not to debate. He couldn't let it go...HE POSTED IT ON THE FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL AND GENERAL BOARDS, not I. Another member alerted me to his deeds and by the time I got here, Jumpmaster had already taken him to task for not giving up. I never asked for you to choose sides, but you seem to have received some bad information and your horse came up lame.