[WindyCityBlue]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge

Windy, if football or any sport, you have to focus on specific plays. As the Referee of my crew, I cannot see PI calls. I cannot see incomplete passes down the field. I cannot call defensive holding on a wide receiver. When I was a wing, I could not judge on roughing the passer calls or roughing/running into the kicker calls. If I am doing my job, I do not even know those things take place.

Okay, and your point is...what??? No one has ever suggested that we just over rule guys without seeing the play! But, if I see something and and pertner(s) made the wrong call in my estimation, there will be time to get it right. The coaches and players will surely delay because of the bad call and that will allow me the opportunity to ask my partner what he saw and present what I saw. Since my partners have evolved to a point where they recognize I wouldn't be trying to show them up, they usually acquiesce. We would rather get the call right and earn the respect of the contestants than look good. Apparently you would rather let your partner hang when you see him miss a call.

I might not even know a bad call was made until I see tape. I might not be able to tell if I see the tape 100 times. The only way I know if someone blew a call if we talk about it later or we discuss the situation.

The first sentence tells us all about your talent. The second reinforces it and the last confirms it. Every training clinic that I've ever attended or taught at has video taped replays for discussion. Even the greenest rookie will walk away knowing the error after we look at it.



Again, you have a total lack of understanding of football. And in football only a very select of calls can even be reviewed. You cannot review fumbles if the whistle was blown, penalty calls cannot be reviewed and application of the rules cannot be reviewed.

Again, what is your point??? No one has ever said that every play is reviewable. Are you off your medication again?



Windy, not one person is taking an issue with my point of view on this. Not one person is saying my point of view is flawed. If two officials both make an opposing signal, neither call is right or wrong.

So, you have two officials making opposite calls and neither call is right or wrong...why are they on the field?


I am trying to have this discussion based on the issue, not the personalities at play.

Hahahahahahahahahahah! Personalities??? This is a basic philosophical difference. Your pride is blinding you to your responsibility. If you see a partner make an obviously bad call and do nothing to correct it, you are as bad.


Again, you do not work football but you come here and to the basketball board to tell folks that work the sport what they can and cannot do.

No...I tell them what they should do. You have told all of us that you won't wok to get the call right. My D-1 baseball crews work as a team, too. We don't let our partners kick calls - we pussh everyone to be better and support each other on and off the field. But, if one of them blows something and one of us has input to correct it, we do. We may look goofy for a little while, but we have been at it for over a dozen years and have our schedules filled for 2005.



BTW, stop taking one individual and make it seem like everyone agrees with your point of view. There have been several people that suggest you cannot "overrule" a partner. Why not reference those people?

As usual, you read what you want. Try going back over the last few posts and read them again. I beleive that most of them reference times when it was imperative to get the call right by overruling a call.

Peace [/B]