Sun Aug 01, 2004, 08:28am
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Get away from me, Steve.
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Join Date: Aug 2000
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Re: Re: Re: Hehehehehe,
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Originally posted by GarthB
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Originally posted by Foulball
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Originally posted by Tim C
"I agree.......F1's attempt is clearly deceptive not only to the base runner, but the umpires as well. This is punishable by........"THAT'S A BALK!" and make it stick...sell it......it's a balk!"
Please foulball, just show me anyhwere in any rule book where a balk can be called after a dead ball and before it is legally made live. Pretty simple request I would think.
Your statement just proves that some people are untrainable.
Sometimes even the internet amazes me.
Tee
[Edited by Tim C on Jul 31st, 2004 at 01:09 PM]
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Wow...pretty rude. I hope you don't treat your family like this. My point was from a practical standpoint. Lot's of times I see the ball is never even put in play, and play resumes. I want to get this right too, but governing the game by the "letter of law" rather then the "spirit of rule" is un-practical at times. Common sense says that deception by a pitcher is punishable by a "BALK".....for all practical purposes....when the umpire calls "play" it is live ball regardless of whether the pitcher has the ball, or is even on the rubber. However I do concede to the techinal ruling. In the meantime Tee........take a pill.
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Technical ruling? TECHNICAL RULING? TECHNICAL RULING????
Just so I have this straight, you are saying that you would ignore the rules and call and enforce a balk during a deadball situation because you think it is the practical thing to do?
So then it is practical to ignore a deadball? How about if the pitcher throws and picks-off a runner during a deadball. Do we ignore the rules on that, too? I mean, we know his intent, don't we?
Or, how about letting the runner from third score during a deadball?
Or........
Sorry, but the rules regarding live and dead ball situations and putting the ball in play are more than mere technicalities. If you're looking for a rule to ignore, you should look elswhere.
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Exactly. You can't make a dead ball live unless the pitcher has it on the mound. You calling a dead ball LIVE doesn't necessarily make it so.
Now, if the ball is ALREADY live, great, call a balk. But if it's not, have the stones to admit you made a mistake and move on.
--Rich
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