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Originally posted by Carl Childress
Teacherspit wrote: "When the pitcher stepped off the back of the rubber he becomes a fielder. The balk is no longer an option." Garth Benham replied: "...but still, by rule, he is referred to as a pitcher."
Of course, as we all know, teacherspit is right. The OBR is quite clear and unambiguous: "If the pitcher removes his pivot foot from contact with the pitcher's plate by stepping backward with that foot, he thereby becomes an infielder.... (8.01e) Benham says F1 is still "referred to as a pitcher." That's not what the OBR says.
It's not an important point in terms of the thread. Rich Fronheiser has carefully answered those questions:
(1) The pitcher may throw from the rubber to an unoccupied base if it's for the purpose of making an appeal.
(2) The defense does not have to announce the appeal in advance.
(3) The umpire who called the balk, as described in the original thread, was simply wrong.
But Mr. Benham, for whatever reason, took a poster to task for stating a fact. It's important that Forum Big Dogs don't dismiss other posters without being absolutely sure of their position. The OBR says the pitcher who legally steps off the rubber becomes an infielder. I don't think that leaves much wiggle room.
What do you guys think?
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I think that you left off the most important part. Let's complete the sentence:
"...he thereby becomes an infielder and if he makes a wild throw from that position, it shall be considered the same as a wild throw by any other infielder."
Now while you are much older and have far experience presenting rule interpretions as you see them, as is taught at most pro clinics I've attended that 8.01 (e) references considering the pitcher an infielder for the SPECIFIC reason included...a wild throw.
It does not preclude him from being considered a pitcher for other reasons:
8.05 (g) (if there is a runner or runners, it is a balk when) the pitcher makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch while he is not touching the pitchers plate.
So, Carl, following your logic, a pitcher steps off and is no longer a pitcher. Right? He then simulates his pitching delivery. Balk? Can't be according to you. He's not a pitcher anymore. He's a fielder and fielder's can;t balk.
Nonsense. It's a balk.
Except for the specific consideration contained in 8.01 (e) of a wild throw, the pitcher is still a pitcher.
[Edited by GarthB on Jul 25th, 2004 at 01:56 AM]