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Old Sun Jul 11, 2004, 12:28pm
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i was wrong

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Originally posted by LDUB
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Originally posted by jumpmaster
I am going to assume that there are 2 outs.

This statement sums up the situation. The ball is dead, the umpire killed it when he called BR out, even though this is the wrong call.

I had a similiar situation occur with me during my first game back from Iraq. Foul Tip - I put my hands up signaling dead ball, the PU mirrors. I send R1 back to first, he is tagged by F4. PU realizes what is going on, comes out and we talk. I wake up and put R1 on first and take the out away. Offensive coach is in my ear for killing a foul tip. Defensive coach is in my ear for not giving him the out. What I said was "guys, I messed up. I killed a ball that should have been live. what we are going to do is but R1 back at 1st and continue with this game. I messed up, now let's move on." Coaches shut up, turned around and walked back to the dugout. We say "ain't nothing 'til I call it"...make sure we call the right thing.
So what would you do if this comes up? R1, R2 and 2 out. Fly ball to F8 who dives towards the ball. You call the BR out because the ball was caught. Then you see F8 get up and run and pick up the ball, becaause the ball was not caught.

According to you, the ball was dead when you called the third out. So now what to you do with the three runners? Give them all one base, two bases? How are you going to explain this to either manager? You're stuck. If only you would have changed your call to no catch. Then no one complains. It was an obvious missed call which you changed within a second or two of making the call.
LDUB, I will agree with you. I was wrong. On your scenario, the right call is to immediately overturn your incorrect call and then buy your partner a beer for your out-safe call.

Using your logic, the right thing to do is to allow the original play to stand and for PU to eat his call.
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