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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Again, Jurassic, show me exactly where I was wrong.
If you insist, Windy. You stated that another official OVERRULED the calling official. I cited the very specific NCAA rules that won't allow that scenario to happen. How many times do I have to point that FACT out to you? It's simply a case of a WRITTEN rule VS. YOUR supposition. Obviously, the written rules wins EVERY time, Windy, whether you want to admit that or not.
You're a hoot, Windy. You tried to prove your point by posting that the same situation happened about 3 different ways. Know what? I do believe that you just called yourself a liar. Amazing. You really should try to pick one story and then stick to it. 
Wrong and no credibility, Windy. Bottom line.
Btw, what are you gonna do when they lock this thread? Start another one? Then you could be wrong in four of them.
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You are lying again Jurassic. Windy has been entirely consistent. He told of a play where a call was changed. You have tried to twist what he said to make it appear that he was arguing that basketball referees can change other referees calls. In point of fact, what he has been arguing is that calls are being changed. Someway, somehow, they are being changed.
Here is where you are screwed up, Jurassic. Officials often don't follow the rulebooks literally.
I agree. I think Windy agrees. NCAA rules forbid officials from overruling other officials. Windy, however, is pointing out hypocrisy. He is pointed out that sometimes officials do overrule other officials. They may not call it that, but the effect is the same.
You wrote:
"Obviously, the written rules wins EVERY time, Windy, whether you want to admit that or not."
That is not obvious, at least in baseball. The written rules are regularly violated. In baseball, there is a strike zone written in the rulebook. For decades, the MLB umpires regularly and deliberately violated it.
MLB umpires are forbidden from consulting videotape in making their rulings. A few years ago, Frank Pulli consulted a videotape to get a call right.
Windy pointed out to you that basketball officials are engaged in exactly the same practice. They are violating their own rules in order to get calls right. You are dead wrong when you say that written rules win every time. All Windy has to do is show you one case where they don't and he has then proved you wrong. He showed you one case. It is you who have lost all credibility when you insist that he is wrong.
Jurassic, you must stop talking about rules and start addressing the plays that Windy brings up. Until you can explain how the real situations that Windy has identified are not in conflict with the rules, it is you who are blowing a lot of hot air.
We used to have an umpire here from down under. He engaged in exactly the sort of argumentative tactics that you engage in. He quoted rules endlessly and refused to address real life situations that seemed to be in conflict with the rules. When confronted with a situation that violated his preconceived ideas, he went through Olympic gymnastics to try to convince us that the situtation was not as it appeared to be.
The only thing that the man from down under convinced me of with his sophistry was that he was rec ball umpire at best. Likewise, I doubt your capabilities as well.
Peter
[Edited by His High Holiness on Jul 6th, 2004 at 07:11 PM]