[WindyCityBlue]

Originally posted June 30th by JurassicRef

Wow, you missed the point, WCB. DG was alluding to basketball officials over ruling each other. Well, that don't happen. Ever!

Except in the 2004 NCAA Tourney, at least once!

The official above changed his OWN call after listening to the information that was offered to him by another official.

No he didn't...watch the play, I have that game on tape, since the brother of a friend is on the team. The referree who made the OOB call(listen now) DID NOT CORRECT HIS CALL, one of his partners looked at him, indicated a touch by the other team and signalled the other way. The other referee NEVER DID A THING, except run up the side of the court to follow the inbounds.

That happens all the time. He was NOT over ruled by another official.

Okay, he telepathically convinced him that the play was incorrect. Then, he signalled the correct call and told his partner to remain quiet.

You can NEVER over rule another official in basketball- plain and simple. There's a very simple theory behind the explicit rule that I detailed in my first post. The basketball rulesmakers don't want their officials to try and assert their OWN judgement over another official's judgement.

Okay, so when the buzzer goes off and one official signals no shot, why do they huddle at the TV to see how much time is acually left? Just to see how good they look? OR...could it be that they recognize that JUST LIKE BASEBALL, HOCKEY, TENNIS and FOOTBALL, professional officials can make mistakes and they will provide them with the remedy for fixing them? Hmmm

I have never said that every call can and should be scrutinized and if wrong, corrected. I have never said that one official should usurp the other's authority and impose his will. You have put words in my mouth, but didn't like it when I reciprocated. Your difficulty with this is the word NEVER. Wake up...it happened. Other sports are evolving and allowing officials to rectify improper judgements. How long before the rule books are altered? Rut said that he didn't care what the Official rules state because he won't work MLB, but a whole lot of baseball is governed by those same rules. I also recognize that when the pros are doing something that has a positive effect on the game, I should adopt that mindset. My ego does not prevent me from adopting better techniqus that may seem foreign. It also doesn't allow me to hide behind arcane rules and semantics. I have given two exact plays that challenged the theroies presented for discussion. Both are real and not subject to dismissal. The two JR's (Rut and 'rassic) have never wworked any of their sports at a D1 level or beyond. Yet they are a fountain of knowledge about how we should conduct ourselves. I will take solace in the fact that when our Minor League Director of Umpiring calls on us to live up to those standards, we can say we are aware and already are.