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Originally posted by Mark Dexter
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Originally posted by KDM
Its a warning or a technical. Rule 10 is fairly clear. He/she can not attempt to influence your decision. He/she can not taunt or bait in objection to an official's decision. Even if the decision is 'not to call a foul'. He/she can not incite unfavorable crowd reaction, although that may not have occurred in this situation. But, rest ************ured, it is likely that this behavior may incite the crowd. I'm a firm believer that you officiate within the 'spirit and intent' of the rules rather than the literal sense. However, when a coach attempts to circumvent the 'spirit and intent', we might have to revert to the literal meanings of the rule. Allowing this behavior to continue, most likely, will escalate to other undesirable behaviors. So, my answer is to 'nip it in the bud' immediately and don't p************ the problem to the next group of officials that may work his/her game.
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You call this an attempt to influence the official? What about when the coach discusses a call with an official - the coach is trying to get the call to go his way (like it's going to work).
I think influence is much worse than "that's a foul" "travelling."
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Mark, I wasn't talking about 'discussing' a call. The original post related to a coach 'yelling' the phrase, "and one" on a field goal attempt. A coach yelling this phrase is no different, in my opinion, than shouting, "Call a foul" or "foul", or "call something". I've noticed that some officials consider this to be 'part of the game'. I think differently. In most cases, allowing a coach to continue this behavior, without a warning or technical, usually means that it intensifies, and like a virus, it spreads. Maybe to the fans, maybe to the players, and maybe to other situations in the game. Seldom, in my experience is this a one time thing. I consider this behavior on every fg attempt to be intimidating, baiting, and an attempt to influence an official. I've yet to find in the rule and/or case book where this type of behavior is acceptable. On the contrary, in the nfhs case book, play 10.4.1a it talks about a technical foul being charged to the
bench personnel for an 'uncomplimentary remarks' addressed to an official. While many of you will consider this to be 'hard-lined' or 'by the letter of the rule', I consider it as 'preventive'. Just like calling the early hand checks or three seconds, cleaning it up initially, prevents (in most cases) having to deal with it in the latter stages of the game or of the season. Some officials are reluctant to enforce the conduct and sportsmanship sections of the rules book because the penalties appear to be 'harsh'. However, these rules are as much a part of the game as rules 1 - 9. If I'm going to be lenient with this, then to be consistent, I must be lenient with all the rules.
[Edited by KDM on Mar 5th, 2001 at 03:55 PM]