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Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
Glen,
No, I'm afraid they do not do that. Please read the rule cited and find the similar caveat which allows the umpire to call a player out?
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If you are referring to 10-1K, besides using the generic "retired in accordance with these rules", even if you define "retired" as meaning "by action of the defense" there remain other rules whereby the runner or batter-runner is out that do not meet that defintion and do not require an appeal.
If you are saying that "failing to advance" and "abandoning a base" are special cases of "failure to touch a base," I can find nothing in the rules or interps (POE, Case Book) that supports that.
And finally, there is the direct statement in case play 8.6-1 that the batter-runner "should be declared out by the umpire" ... "
as soon as B4 enters his team's area" and "In neither case is it an appeal play."
You're driving me crazy, Mike. Can you say, explicitly, how you are coming to the view that a runner cannot be ruled out for abandoning a base or failing to advance to 1B?