Mon Jun 21, 2004, 09:47pm
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Originally posted by Dakota
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Originally posted by F.O.D. UIC
I am the UIC at Basehor Field of Dreams in Kansas, where we run 20 afa tourneys per year.
I am very familiar with the Defo/DP rule.
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AFA is hanging tough (this year at least) with the DEFO name. Long live the AFA!
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Originally posted by F.O.D. UIC
When they allowed you to bat for the DP in the 5th, this was an illegal substitution, since you were no longer the Defo. And, when you WERE the Defo, you were considered in the game, and are charged with a substitution when you are removed from the defensive field (which you did in the 5th inning, when G went in to pitch and you went to the bench). Therefore, you should have first been re-inserted into the 10th, non-batting position before being allowed to bat for the DP. Defo's are allowed free substitution for the DP's batting position, but when you went to the bench, the actual number of players that your team was playing with dropped to 9.
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The true statement that "Defo's are allowed free substitution for the DP's batting position" can lead to vast misunderstanding. Some believe that the DEFO and DP may go back and forth in the batting position as many times as they want. The DEFO can, but the DP can't. Each time the DEFO bats for the DP, the DP has officially left the game. The DP can reenter, but only one time.
Also, using the word "substitution" in this context leads to confusion. It is not a substitution in the sense that the DEFO is not "entering" the game - the DEFO is already IN the game playing defense. It is, however, an exit from the game for the DP. Same thing if the DP plays defense for the DEFO. It is not an entry for the DP, but it is an exit for the DEFO.
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Since we were discussing the Defo's legality or illegality, I felt as though a deeper discussion of the stipulations for the DP in this situation was unwarranted and unnecessary. You are, however, correct that each time the DP goes to the bench (out of the batting line-up), it counts as a substitution for them.
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Mike Martin
Field of Dreams
UIC (afa)
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