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REPLY: bigwes68...don't confuse "line to gain" with "new series." In the original play, B was unfortunate enough to foul first. Hence the enforcement for his foul (half the distance from B's 23) does take A to a point beyond the original LTG. Hence, at that point, he's awarded a new series--i.e. a first down. Now we penalize A for his stupidity. That brings the ball back to the 26.5 and it's still a first down. Now we set the chains so that it's 1-10 for A from B's 26.5. [Note: Not too many years ago--prior to 1997 to be exact--the chains would have been set after the first enforcement awarded A a new series and left there. That would have resulted in it being A's ball 1-25 from B's 26.5]
If Team A had fouled first, it would have resulted in a situation similar to the one you describe: Penalize A 15 from B's 23 back to B's 38. Then penalize B 15 yards back to B's 23. That would leave the ball in A's hands still behind the LTG. The result would be A's ball, 3-5 from B's 23.
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Bob M.
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