[PeteBooth]

Ok Rich started what "appeared" to be a simple thread and it escalated which starting me thinking (Watch out now).

Gentlemen, this might sound stupid (hey we are all here to learn right), but exactly what is meant by End of Playing Action . This is important especially in a FED game in which a runner misses a base and end of playing action we call runner out.

When should Blue Kill the Play and say TIME! or at what point in a FED game do we call the runner out for missing a base?

We just had a thread on a continous play after a Balk. I understand (I think) what everyone is saying but let's play devils advocate for a moment.

In Rich's example, suppose Blue did not call time and kill the play the moment F1 Feinted to First . Instead he allowed r1 to go all the way to third and subsequently he was either out / safe. Is this protestable?

Obviously if he was safe the defensive manager would come right out and say hey Blue he only gets second right! conversely, if r1 was put out at third, the offensive manager would say hey Blue he should get second. His argumenet is a little weaker than the former since it was his own runner who chose to go to third.

In summary, IMO it's very important for an umpire to know when a play is dead (over) vs. when to keep it alive .

As always thanks gentlemen

Pete Booth