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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
You might want to run thsi by Alstadt since you don't have a clue legally. Assignors don't "hire" officials. In Illinois, as in many other states, officials are independent contractors. If someone "hires" someone, they begin and employer/employee relationship and Workmen's Comp and taxation issues enter the equation. So, I guess I do understand it a little better than you.
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Yes assignor hire officials. They hire them to do a specific job. If I want someone to do a project on my house, I hire them to do that job. Same thing as officiating.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
who's running his mouth now? Baseball is a completely different animal by design. The schools in our area formed a consortium (NISOC) and set the ground rules for dealing with assignors and associations.
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I do not care what the reasoning is, it should not be that way. I do agree that it is a different animal. Of course it is when the State Finals are not even shown live. Of course it is a different animal.
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Because UMPS is so big, we are able to lobby for things that you can't. The conferences and schools sign our contract, we don't sign theirs! Our assignors work for us and get paid by our group, not the school or conference.
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Well every other level of umpiring and officiating pays an assignor to assign the games. So why is High School Baseball so different in our area?
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They handle all of the rescheduling issues, not the school. Baseball is a non-revenue producing sport (so they claim) and treat the assigning differently.
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So is volleyball, but they go thru assignors.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
Basketball games rarely get cancelled due to weather, football has 12 games a year and plays through most everything.
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Actually, it is nine. But it was a nice try.
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These ADs recognized the headache that scheduling and rescheduling 32 games can be.
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It goes to show how little you know about sports in our state. Who do you think does all the assigning and rescheduling and filling spots? It is not the school at any of these school in the Chicago area.
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In the Chicgao area, if your talented and want them, you have a game every day. Now, if we operated like other sports and cancelled a game that they want rescheduled for tomorrow - but wait, I already have a game tomorrow, they're screwed.
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Again, more evidence you know little about how other sports work.
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Originally posted by WindyCityBlue
having one assignor handling both area conferences assures that those snafus don't occur. No phone trees or email begging. He knows who is playing and who is available...end of question. I'm not sure, did I answer all of your assigning questions. BTW, we are talking baseball here.
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We are and we are not. Because everything you just said is exactly what goes on in Football, Basketball or Volleyball. Schools do not assign reschedules (they happen in those sports more than you think). ADs are not assigning the many officiating changes that happen. In all cases I know of, that is the assignor. The assignor might not do it if an officials gives him a good replacement. But the assignor are the ones that have to replace the game ultimately. The schools play no direct part in that.
Again, you prove to be just completely unprofessional. You have spent the past few months trying to pump up your organization. You have been called on it by a completely uninterested party. The poster just wanted to know information about associations. He can tell you that I told him to contact all of them and figure out who was the best to join. Of course I gave information about my group, but I also told him to look at your organization too. There are good and bad people in all of them. It is for each individual to figure out for themselves what that is.
Peace