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Old Sat Jun 12, 2004, 01:40pm
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Originally posted by Bob Floyd
I respectfully disagree that intentional pass interference is classified as an USC foul. It is INTENTIONAL PASS INTERFERENCE, which carries an additional 15 yard penalty.This is not by rule USC. The player or coach is not charged one of the two disqualifying fouls. The use of signal 27 is misleading, maybe NF should come up with another signal.
If you're using the USC signal to call a penalty, it's a USC. If you're not using the signal, what are you going to call? If you're calling I-PI, and using PF or anything other than S-27, you have a multiple foul situation unless they're going to put a written exception in for that particular ordeal.

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Originally posted by Theisey
Just happen to have my 2003 book and I see those words. I don't see where that changes anything in that someone is going to be charged with a UC. Its either the player committing the I-PI or the coach. I say its the player.

I think those words just mean that the +15 is on A if OPI and on B is DPI.
I completely agree with you on this; Although I stated earlier that in theory you could call it only on the team and not the player, there is wording that says otherwise: look at the pen. summary for 9-8. Basically it infers that anytime you have a USC-type foul called that carries a 15-yd. penalty (there are situation where it's not 15), it counts toward DQ.
IMO, if NFHS wanted I-PI to truly be a distinct, stand-alone penalty, they would've made it a one-signal, one 30-yd. penalty. By saying that it's an "add-on" penalty, it has to be USC in order to get enforced (otherwise mult. foul because it's live-ball).

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Originally posted by Jim S
...All (accepted) [USC] fouls are penalized against the team, but they are charged to the player, or the head coach...
Excellent statement, Jim. The distance penalty can be declined (although I'm not sure why it would be, since it's always suc.-spot enforcement), but the player or coach called for the foul always gets "charged" on the game card.

Not that any of us has the "right" answwer, but think about this: say Home Team player #33 gets called for I-PI in the 2nd per. and then in the 3rd, #33 gets flagged for swearing at an official. Do you toss him? What if after the 2nd per. I-PI, he commits I-PI again in the 4th per. Is he gone? If not & he does it a 3rd time, can you justify tossing him after a "3rd" USC? What if...

We could all go back and forth on this thread, but as long as it's as clear as mud exactly how & why NFHS wants I-PI to go "into the books", I think we can say that our crews will probably look at it in different lights, and if it actually comes up in a game, we'll deal with it.

Let's try to not get too bogged down in this thread, guys (easier said than done); I-PI won't happen too often, but by the same token, don't be afraid to call it.

Jonathan E. Ransom
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