[lildani14]

This happened in my brother's Ponies game tonight but I'm just wondering how it would be handled in either sport, I'm sure its a fairly universal rule.

R1 on 1B substitute reports to umpire, umpire leaves backstop area to report substitue to home book. pitcher was on rubber as batter had stepped into box but then stepped off forward toward the plate because he saw the umpire was not in position. 1B coach said thats a balk and told his runner to go to 2B. umpire didn't see it, plus he was inexperienced the way it was. (it was his first game behind plate, a friend of mine) just wondering...if the umpire is not in position is it possible to have a balk/illegal pitch? wouldn't it be considered no pitch if anything at all?

if question, i can try and explain it more...