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Old Sun Feb 25, 2001, 05:00pm
Bfair Bfair is offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jim Porter

About a year and a half ago, a poster on another board made the case that a "decision" was not the same as a "call" - an argument I see you bringing forth here. This poster argued this ridiculous point so vehemently that a ruling was requested from the PBUC which clarified, once and for all, that a "decision" and a "call" are exactly the same thing.

I certainly hope you won't push it as far as that poster did.


Jim, someone emailed me and said YOU may have this confused with a thread where PBUC ruled that a "called" out and a "declared" out are the same. Not a decision and a call. The difference between a decision and a call being, in fact, the verbal announcement (declaration) of the decision. I think it is ludicrous to think a decision and a call are one in the same. If that were true, anytime my partner made a call whereby in my mind I disagreed with it, by your logic it would mean we have two calls and can take that which we elect to take. Furthermore, by rule 9-04-C we must get together to clear up the difference in the "decision" (call). I hope you can see the ludicrousy of that determination. If you expect me to accept it as fact merely because you stated it, I am sorry to disappoint you. I doubt if others will accept it for that reason either.

What I would prefer would be to see a reference to the old thread or at least to where I might go to view this unofficial "official interpretation". Is it in NAPBL or perhaps a site I can link to? How about an MLB site I can go to? I will at least go to the old thread if you will identify it. I suspect others may also care to review it. It certainly wouldn't be the first time in a forum topics were duplicated---although your statement appears there may not be much worth in it. It is a fascinating topic that many may with to discuss who were not around a year ago. BTW, if it is, indeed, an "official interpretation" I will only think of it then as a ludicrous interpretation, as I suspect many will. Furthermore, if there is difficulty in finding it for review, it only epidomizes the method of providing unofficial "official interpretation" and requesting it to be adhered to.

So, what are you EWS guys gonna do? Are you gonna keep pushing and pushing until no one wants to visit this board anymore? Ease up, Dude. You're overboard.

No, Jim, we are not overboard nor is it overboard to question Regalistic statements such as a "decision" and a "call" are exactly the same thing". It is improper to think that these should be accepted as unquestioned doctrine. It should not go unquestioned since a decision and a call are logically not the same. Some justification other than "accept it because I have said it" is required, at least by me. If the forum management decides they want only one point of view put forth as doctrine they can set their rules accordingly. Once that is done, those willing to think for themselves may flee elsewhere. That is the decision of the forum management.

Just my opinion,

Steve
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[Edited by Bfair on Feb 25th, 2001 at 04:02 PM]