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Originally posted by oc
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Originally posted by RookieDude
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Nothing A does can exonerate B if he was responsible for the contact
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Daryl...The thread started out with A1 PUSHING B1 while A1 was in the air. IMO A1 was responsible for the contact, since A1 "pushed" B1 before any contact had been made.
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In the play in question I was B1 playing in a jerk ball game (rec ball). I was called for a block and didn't like the call as A1 saw me there and led with his elbow into my chest. (I thought I had gotten postion before A1 jumped as well but that's probably biased thinking-and not relevant to my question.) Thinking about the play later from an objective point of view I was wondering whether or not I might have called it exactly the same-blocking foul on myself.
Here is the question again. If B1 does not have a legal guarding position-but airborne A1 puts their opposite arm or elbow out to push B1-who initiated the contact and is called for the foul?
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You basically have two wrongs happening. Was the contact severe? Was B1 more or less vertical, even if LGP was not obtained prior to jumping?
From what you described, my first impression is a no-call, then PC, unless B1 was really coming hard at A1, I can't see this as a block.