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Old Sat May 15, 2004, 03:36pm
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OK, talked with someone who has the 2004 rulebook. Bob is correct. Thy did remove the Football Fundamentals I-3 wording (in italics) that addresses loose balls being in the team possession of the last player to be in possession unless post scrimage kick applies.
They also took out of II-3 the words "crossed the expanded neutral zone".

I still think that this leaves the question open. When DOES possession change under the FED rules?
CAN we have PSK on plays where the ball goes OB, or into the EZ, or becomes dead on the field of play without having been in player possession after the kick? In all these cases Kis still in team possession at the end of the down. If possession does not change until the new series is awarded, then in these cases PSK would not apply and the answer for the POD play would be correct as given.
In other words to have PSK, at some time during the down, R would have had to be in player possession of the ball. Is this the intent of FED PSK? I thought it was to not give the ball back to K for fouls committed by R after K has intentionally given the ball over (kicked).

[Edited by Jim S on May 15th, 2004 at 04:55 PM]
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