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Originally posted by IBHookin43
Clearly, if the player with the ball holds out a fully extended stiff arm horizontally with the intent to hold off the player from getting close to the ball, that would not be considered legal (even though he claimed that space first). In such a case, a defensive player initiating contact with the arm to get closer to the ball should not be called for the foul (should they?). Would this be a PC foul?
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Could be, depending on disadvantage illegally conferred.
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Originally posted by IBHookin43
I get the impression that Rainmaker is stating that holding the ball under the chin with the elbows out is a similar situation. And, if the defender initiates contact with the elbow to get closer to the ball, then it is a PC foul on the offense...even if the player with the ball is not pivoting or moving the elbows. Rainmaker states..."The defender is entitled to that space right next to the ball-handler". That can't be right...can it? Coaches have been teaching "chinning the ball" for years.
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I don't think I specified whether the ball-handler was moving or not moving the elbows. If the defender just walks into a stationary elbow, I've got nothin'. But if the elbow moves toward the defender at all, it's PC. Chinning is legal, but the elbows technically speaking aren't within the allowable space, so if they make contact, it's a PC