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Old Wed May 05, 2004, 06:38am
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
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Player sitting on the floor while holding the ball. Player puts the ball on the floor, stands up, then picks up the ball. Case book says traveling. With this, there is precedent that rules on moving after putting the ball on the floor in a way that is not a dribble. It is a travel.

In summary, the ball is moved around the floor in 3 ways: passing, dribbling, and shooting. To move with control of the ball, a player has to dribble. This is not a dribble. Traveling.

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Camron,
Great post and I agree completely. BTW the casebook play for the travel is 4.43.5 Sit B in the Ruling.

[/B][/QUOTE]The above is not applicable in any way, shape or form for one simple reason.In Camron's case, you have travelling when the player gained CONTROL of the ball by picking it up. In the case book play cited, the player also had CONTROL of the ball while on the floor. Control of the ball is defined as holding or dribbling the ball. If you're PUSHING the ball along the floor, you do NOT meet the rule book definitions of either holding or dribbling the ball. You just plain and simple do NOT have control of the ball, so you can't be called for travelling. It's no different than fumbling the ball in the air the length of the court. May look bad, but it's legal.

There is nothing anywhere in the rule book that says that you can travel without having control of the ball. Casebook play 4.43SitA nicely points that out.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on May 5th, 2004 at 07:45 AM]
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