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Originally posted by BJ Moose

and it can be protested because they don't like my hat. Will it be upheld.. NO! Because it ain't ILLEGAL. I think we are getting closer to enlightenment on this topic.. do YOU See the difference?

Better yet.. I am waiting for the testimony of upheld protests due to the "pulled foot changed call play". Or a host of evidence establishing a pattern.

I'm starting to think only ALIEN MIND RAY BEAMS can explain this goofy behavior.

Mike Branch
Founder
EWS

Mike,

My first question is what does EWS stand for? If it is another umpire board or umpire group I don't think I can take any more -- but I'm liable to try especially if name-calling is not rampant...

I know I'm not going to convince you that Warren is simply correct on the issue of an umpire not legally changing a judgment call. This seems to have been beaten to death and you do not seem inclined to change. What has apparently worked for you and gone unchallenged i.e. changing judgment calls "to get it right" after the fact does not make it correct and within the accepted norms of upper level baseball. In ten years of baseball I have had perhaps two or three attempts to protest none of which had any legitimacy to them. So this tells me from my experience games are rarely protested. There is often a cost involved. Also coaches are less likely to protest when officials seem to be in charge. I would not dispute that you give coaches positive vibes therefore your "modified approach" works for you. By golly if the leagues you work in are happy when an umpire changes a judgment call such as a pulled foot or a missed tag than give them what they want. If you want to judge whether that is accepted norm we would have to submit it to some type of vote. Here there seems to be an awful lot of members but few regular posters. Than the Internet represents according to someone's computation only 1% of all umpires (I have no clue as to the basis of this estimate) so that really might not carry enough weight.

I think at some time as mature adults we need to bring an issue to a close. "I think the rose was red.” says Warren "No it was definitely yellow.,” says Mike. Warren attempts another approach showing the history of the rose the preponderance of red among roses etc. al. We don't know whether anyone else is actually listening and worse yet whether they care. But it is clear YOU remain unconvinced. That is the time to bring it to a close. I happen to be very supportive of most positions or interpretations Warren makes. Why when I stated out he was posting as the Great Kola. But the thing I hate about these boards is that we allow ourselves to go down a slippery slope of name calling rather than just saying "Thank you sir but I choose to remain unconvinced" Next topic PLEASE.