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Old Tue Apr 13, 2004, 08:25pm
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Originally posted by Dakota
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Originally posted by Woodchuck
You and others that have answered your post are saying there is no advantage, bull, if this is the only way she can pitch then you were giving her and advantage on every pitch that she delivered. Our job is to call the rules the way they were written for the game that we are calling, not how we believe they should be called.
Nice rant, Woodchuck, but what thread did YOU read?

Please provide the quote from the responder who claimed "no advantage" as a reason to not call this.

I saw "minor" infraction (which is a valid argument, since the penalty is major). This aligns with the notion that you must see the out to call it.

I saw questioning that such a small leap would not be seen without crouching down.

I saw questioning on whether this was technically a crow hop v. other IP (such as leap) and whether or not that even mattered (i.e. just call the IP).

But I just went back and scanned the entire thread again, and didn't see "no advantage." Maybe I missed it, though... so please show me. (BTW, I agree with the point of your rant - "no advantage" drives me crazy!)
Little Jimmy stated - "Our concern was that the infraction was so minor that it amounted to looking for trouble."

WestMitchBlue stated - "As you said, the lift is minor. Would I call it? Probably not. But I would say something to the coach. I’d tell him that the pitcher needs to keep her foot down, and if its a repetitive action (happens every pitch) or gets worse that it will be called. And then call it.

The CH is not a minor infraction; it definitely gains the pitcher an advantage; an illegal advantage. The lifting of the foot indicates the pitcher is getting a greater weight shift backwards than she would if she were legal. That can translate into a more powerful and longer drive forward, thus putting her closer to home upon release of the ball, and increasing ball speed.

The problem with the minor foot lift is that if you let it go it can suddenly get worse. When the pitcher starts to tire a bit, or needs to reach back and really throw the hard one, then suddenly the foot raises 2” of 3”. Now you call the IP – or you don’t call it! Either way, one side or the other is going to be on you.

Keeping the foot down is easy for a pitcher to correct; I’d get it corrected at the beginning of the game so it doesn’t come back and bite me later."

Dokota - These statements are what I considered to mean as no advantage to the pitcher. If the pitcher makes this same move on every pitch and the IP is not called by the umpires then the pitcher is gaining and advantage for failure to call the IP. When I'm the PU I can see the pitcher lift her foot quite easily, when the BU I can only see this lifting of the pivot foot when in foul territory with no one on base. When I see and IP I call it every time. No where in the NFHS rules does it state that umpires overlook minor infractions (what ever they are) and that is how I believe every umpire should call the game, by the rules. No rant intended.


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