[JRutledge]

I would totally agree with you if they are talking to me as an official or another player or coach. But the problem is that I am not going to do something if a kid says something to his teammate or to him or herself. I agree that it may be vulgar, but to the degree is another issue. And depending on where you are and who is talking or around, you might have some debate on that. I am not one to encourage profanity or to just let it pass, but are you going to go into a huddle of players and coaches and give T's for language between themselves? I say a kid last week push his own teammate in anger, are we going to give a T for teammates fighting? I really do not have an answer other than you have to live with your decisions, and if that is acceptable to you, then be out!! You have the right to make any kind of judgement you like on the issue, but others have the right to disagre and debate you on it. And I know that all of us to not feel the same on this issue and never will. We can give all kinds of rules wordings and justifications for doing what we do.

10-4 Says:

Commit an unsportsmanlike foul. This includes, but is not limited to, acts or conduct such as:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.

Not this first one alone is going to give great debate, because something said to one official might be precieved as disrespectful and to another, it just complaining.

e. Objecting to an officials decision by rising from the bench or using gestures.

We would never have a coach if we applied to this all the time.

g. Squad member(s) not remaining seated on the bench unless spontaneously reacting to an outstanding play by a member of their team and immediately returning to their seats or reporting to the scorers' table.

Now I use all these examples to illustrated that judgement is always going to apply. I really feel there is no right or wrong here, I just feel that you have to find what works for you and stick to it. If the slightest behavior of any of these gets a T from you, more power to you. But for many of us, we are going to give a little rope so when they do hang, they hang themselves.