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Old Fri Apr 09, 2004, 04:46pm
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Originally posted by Kevzebra
1st base B1 tags A2 and then is run into by A2. B1 is knocked to the ground and has no opportunity to throw out the runner.
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Originally posted by Kevzebra
I just hope I never see you on the field. ...Just because they are going to be tagged out dosen't give them the right to bowl over the defense. It was so clear she wanted to prevent the runner being tagged out at home.
You aren't related to Sam, the coach that posts on eteamz, are you?

You have the same characteristic of putting out a parital story, getting some response, flaming the responders, and then telling the rest (or some of the rest) of the story.

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Originally posted by Kevzebra
Refer to NFHS Rule 8-2 Article 6 and 7. Intent dosen't have basis in the decision. Putting the defense at a disadvantage does.
Well, besides being customary to specify the rule book you were playing under, you have referenced the wrong rule. Second besides, intent IS required for the call you were looking for ("A1" out).

"A2" is no longer a batter-runner once she has been tagged. Her status now is retired runner, and the applicable rule is 8-6-18. Intent is required. The reason intent is required is because runners are not obligated to give themselves up on a tag play and cannot be expected to go "poof" once they are tagged.

IF it was "so clear" of the retired BR's intent, why did you argue intent was not necessary? If the intent was clear, then calling interference would be the correct call, and calling the other runner out would be correct, too.

Again, NFHS rule 8-6-18. But it is still a judgment call.

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Originally posted by Kevzebra
... the runner has to avoid contact with the fielder if possible.
The runner is obligated to avoid crashing into the fielder, but otherwise, no, the runner IS NOT obligated to avoid contact with just a couple of exceptions (fielding a batted ball being one of them).

I suppose now you will tell us the BR was screaming and waving her arms all the way.

BTW, I would have thought an umpire and coach of your vast experience would know the proper nomenclature for players in describing a softball play.

Another BTW, coach, your job in this situation is to control yourself (even if the call was wrong) and not incite your fans, argue the call, and get yourself ejected.

The umpire didn't eject you. You did.
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