[whiskers_ump]

Originally posted by Hugo Tafurst2
NFHS
R1 (on 2nd)
R2 (on 1st)
Count 2-Balls, 0-Strikes
Pitch is delivered - Ball 4 - and goes out of play (deflected off F2's helmet)
DEAD BALL

Ok we all agree, right? Good NOW.......

Dead ball table says:
"DEAD BALL IMMEDIATELY...
Activity:
...#16: A pitched ball that becomes blocked (F.P)
Reference:
5-1-1g

AWARD or PENALTIES:
...#16 Award all runners one base from time of pitch
(my emphasis)
References:
8-4-3c"

"Rule 8-4-3:.. a runner is entitled to advance without liability to be put out when:...(c)(FP) a wild pitch or passed ball lodges in or goes under, over or thru a backstop.
PENALTY: The ball is dead and all runners are awarded one base only. The batter
is awarded first base only on the fourth ball."


Still so far so good?, Good....

Is someone (other than the umpire who ruled in the original situation) saying that the runners are advanced TWO bases?
One because they were forced by the batter's walk and another because the ball has gone out of play?

I've been wrong before, but I don't buy that at all...
The dead ball table specifically says the award is from the time of the pitch...

The rule specifically says ONE base.

If the rule waqs meant otherwise, then the batter who was walked should get to second, shouldn't she?
Awarded first on the walk and second on the dead ball!!

Hugo,

I went through the same procedure in an earlier post. However,
because of the way the penalty award reads, BR ain't going to 2B.
I have the bases loaded. Play on.