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Originally posted by Hugo Tafurst2
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Originally posted by scottk_61
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The umpires ruled:
Ball four, no swing when appealed.
Batter gets first base which forces R1 and R2 to second and third.
Then the award for the ball going out of play, which is one base.
The ruling has been upheld
We all need to apply the rulings for each award and teh situation instead of stopping at just one.
I believe the rule is 8-4-3c and d under the NFHS rules, I don't have my book handy.
It is unusual to have a dual award but it does happen on rare occasions.
I wonder how many other award rulings I have missed because I stoped at the first penalty application?
Lots of people from ASA Fed and NCAA with many many years of umpiring experience looked at this and all ruled the same thing when presented with the situation.
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My book reads something like this:
""Rule 8-4-3:.. a runner is entitled to advance without liability to be put out
when:...(c)(FP) a wild pitch or passed ball lodges in or goes under, over or
thru a backstop.
PENALTY: The ball is dead and all runners are awarded one base only. The batter
is awarded first base only on the fourth ball."
Read the penalty comment under (c).
And that is the way I've always understood it...
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Under the penalty,
this is problem with so many people not understanding grammer
The batter gets first base on teh fouth ball only, not on ball two or ball three.
It doesn't say the batter only gets first base on ball four which would require a comma after the word only in your quote.
so goes the explanation