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Originally posted by jeffpea
(1) Jurassic -- you are entirely wrong about counting FT's depending on when they are shot! When the horn sounds to end the quarter (and there are no lingering/outstanding penalties to be administered), the QUARTER IS OVER! Any subsequent action is considered to be a part of the next period/quarter
(2)Are you saying that after the 4th quarter horn sounds in a tie-game and you slap a T on someone, that becuase the FT's are mistakenly administered prior to the clock operator beginning the 60-second time-frame, a team will lose because the made FT's have to count in the 4th quarter? Game Over? Not a chance.............
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(1)Uh no, Jeff, the quarter is NOT over in all cases. I am saying that your all-inclusive statement above is wrong in one specific case. If the fourth quarter ends( as per the horn and with no lingering/outstanding penalties to be administered), and you THEN issue a T-- in this case, unless the score is tied, you would (a) not shoot the FT's if they didn't make a difference in the outcome of the game, or (b) shoot the FT's as PART OF THE FOURTH QUARTER. Case (b) is what makes your statement wrong. The subsequent action( FT's for the T) is NOT part of the next quarter. It becomes part of the fourth quarter. That's exactly what casebook play 5.6CommentB states. In (b), you also start the OT period with a jump ball, NOT a possession as part of the T penalty.
2)As to #2, no, I am not saying that. That is what Nevada is implying should be done, and that's what I've been arguing against. Casebook play 5.6CommentB again contradicts his stand. Does that clear that one up?